He says the proposed government ‘management’ of the welfare payments of indigenous parents whose children are repeatedly absent from school doesn’t address the heart of the matter: that schools must be places that the kids want to go to, that address their and their communty’s needs, and provide them with top quality education to become stronger and smarter. For Australia to do less by our indigenous kids is a form of racism. In all the depressing commentary around the Howard government’s indigenous intervention, this interview is the wisest opinion I have heard.